Grant Heithold - MO Congressional Candidate

In this conversation, Grant Heithold discusses his journey into politics, driven by a desire to address issues he perceives as critical to his community and the nation. He emphasizes the importance of election integrity, fiscal responsibility, and the dangers of lobbying and special interests in politics. Heithold shares his views on federal overreach, particularly in response to COVID-19, and highlights pressing issues such as immigration and child trafficking. He advocates for a return to Christian values in governance and stresses the need for grassroots involvement to effect change. The conversation culminates in a call to action for voters to support candidates who prioritize the needs of their constituents over political agendas.

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Welcome back today. I am sitting down with Grant Highthold. Grant, how are doing today? Doing good. Tell the people before we begin who you are, what you're running on and why. Okay. Well, I'm running for the eighth, Missouri's eighth congressional district. I've never been involved in politics before. I always followed national news and to tell me a little bit more about myself and my family possibly just make me a more of real person. I graduated from a fairly local school here, Licking, high school. I stayed out approximately a year trying to figure out what I wanted to do. I helped my dad farm because I was raised on a farm. And then I decided to continue my education and went to a school up there at that time was called University of Missouri, Rolla School of Mines. It was an engineering school. And so I got my engineering degree BS in petroleum engineering. And from there, started the industry was the problem industry was down at that time I graduated. So I was looking for work. I got a call from a local school looking for math and science teacher. And I interviewed on a Sunday, started work that Monday and taught school for a while. After that, I continued to further my. what education I did have and started working as an engineer at nuclear power plants in different various places. And I've worked there different places for several years. At that time, late in that career portion of my life, I got married, started to have a family and the business I was in was consulting work and I was doing a lot of traveling and I bought farm ground out and came back. to Missouri and started farming and also invested in a small business, which was a hardware store that turned out to be a lumber yard. And now I'm outside wood furnace. I represent a company in seven different states, setting up dealers for an outside wood furnace company, which is called Heatmore. So that kind of gives you a background. I've been married for 35 years. I have three kids and 10 grandkids. well, congratulations. That's awesome. Thank you. family. So like you said, you're not a politician. You kind of just got into this. What led you to run? Well, I've always been involved in looking at national news on the national level. I always interest me. And really what really broke everything for me was I couldn't believe we lost the 2020 election. I thought it was legit at first. I was watching Fox News. And from there, it didn't take me long to realize not to stop watching Fox News and start finding other media to look at because I believe the election was stolen. And this was done, you know, two days after the election was stolen. I determine that in my head. If you really think about it, I mean, if the election is stolen, that's just a tip of the iceberg. Because what elections do, they have consequences and stolen elections has catastrophic consequences. And that's what we're suffering from now. So in this sense, I was thinking this, that if that election was stolen, that's only one eighth of the iceberg, the other seven eighths of the iceberg is underwater and it's a swamp. And I started to realize how deep this was, especially with the strong evidence of fraud, of people voting that were dead, machines that were tabulating or counting 300 ,000 votes at one time and taking them off. ballots coming in the middle of the night. Yes. That has one box checked. you know, trucks, you know, drivers coming up whistleblowers saying that they transported who knows how much ballots in the back of their truck. That type of stuff was going on. The argument from the other side is, we've all, we looked at the evidence and there's no evidence strong proof there or evidence that that election was stolen. But I've been also told that none of these 60 cases that came to the court had been based on merit. And so that really gets you thinking also because you got the judges involved. And they're politicians. Yeah. You know, that's the dirty little secret about just like our judicial system, you know. Yeah. They're for the law and there's a bunch of good judges out there. But at the end of the day, they are elected officials and they're going to go with the votes. They're going to try to get their votes. And it's scary because as judges, they hold people's lives in their hand. And I don't know what the answer to that is, but there does have to be a better way than electing judges or have an oversight on them at least to hold their feet to the fire. Right. Exactly. I'm not sure what the terms of these judges are, but they definitely be looked at closer than they have been. I agree. And one of the things that's one of problems problem with politics is that you have people, let's say I do get elected and get up there. I talked to a guy that in the past year, last few weeks, that was in charge of Ron Paul's campaign, national campaign back in the day. And he said, if the first people is going to approach you is people that want you to vote their way and not the way of the 8th congressional district. And I said, well, I told him on the phone, said, I really didn't want this job anyway. I don't want it. I have other things I could be doing, but I realized that the predicament we're in, and someone needs to run. And so I told him, I said, I don't care. I said, I'll talk to him. I'll tell him. said, I didn't want this job anyway, and you can't, you're not going to be by my vote. We're going to, I'm going to represent, I'm a Christian person. I'm going to stand on Christian values and arrest, represent the people no matter what the cost is. He says, you'll probably lose the primary and the next time they'll primary out. I said, well, so be it. But my message to my constituents is to vote the way I feel like they're going to be represented truly. And I believe if they do that and it communicates that right, the right way, if I want this job again, the next next term, then it's going to happen. So well, isn't that the dirty little secret on all this is money is lobbyists. They come in. and they will throw money at you and they will make you vote against your district, your district's interests. And it's it's happened for so long under the scenes. The only reason it's been exposed to this point is because of social media and the age of information where you can look up anything on the Internet nowadays. It's harder to hide things than it was back in the 90s. And I think we're now just becoming awake to what the political system has truly been up to. I agree. As you run them for US Congress. What are some of your stances that you stand on that you are going to bring to the district? Well, basically, my opponent runs on fiscal responsibility. that's what really got me in the race was this, what they call consolidation appropriations bill. And this was back in late March. And I... he voted for continuing spending. I don't think not all people realize this but according to the congressional budget office we had a 40 percent increase in spending in less than five years and that can that and some people blame it on COVID yeah that we had some extra spending there but COVID's basically over with and yet we still he's still voting on this in late March to continue the spending. There was maybe just a fraction of very little less spending in that bill but it's basically continuing at 40%. And most of this is coming from federal, right? You said 40%. Yeah, this is federal stuff. we, and federal stuff tails off to the stuff that's state and local. mean, I think I heard that the federal money coming to the state, which is too much, is close to 50 % in Missouri. And with every federal dollar comes a federal string attached. Exactly. And so that's what's going on. So this bill, that I'm talking about and again that's kind of the centerpiece of my campaign this bill that he voted on because it actually got me to file is what Marjorie Taylor Greene said was most dirtiest bill she's ever voted on and this takes her through Nancy Pelosi days when she's voting on those bills. Chip Roy said if you vote on this bill you're gonna be owning some stuff you're gonna be owning abortion tourism I heard late -term abortions in this bill. My God. Transgender surgeries for military. funding WHO. I don't know if people know WHO is but it's World Health Organization and it's right and there's consideration with this present administration that they're trying to push a treaty with them and allow them to have authority over the next pandemic and that means we're losing our sovereignty. Yes. So this is a lot of things going on in this thing. Like I said, it continues to spending. I think the Senate and the federal level had a resolution earlier this year saying that the our national debt is a matter of national security. That's how bad it is. And so he keeps spending these things. People may have noticed this, Devin, and have heard this before, and Jason says this behind the podium. He'll say that we're at $35 trillion of a debt and have a trillion added to that every hundred days. Yeah, he keeps doing the same stuff. He talks one thing behind the podium and says another. So this is a matter of national security. Experts don't realize, don't know when this train wreck is going to happen, but it's going to happen. It's happening. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's scary. And that's why I got involved because I don't know how long this lace is going to last the way it is. So I needed, I thought I needed to do something. it's go ahead. sorry. I thought I needed to do something to try to, to sway it some way, one way or another. And so my, like I said, I don't have a lot of experience in politics at all, but I some common sense. mean, don't vote for spending bills that continue the out of control spending and also for the dirty stuff that's in this bill. Make a stand. Well, I think a lot of it comes from bought and paid for, know, except accepting those lobbyist dollars, accepting that money from the special interest groups coming in. You can't tell them no at that point. They own you. know, every investment made, there's a return on an investment and that return investment comes in a vote. And that's what we've seen over and over and over again. And you know, you've got people like Jason who stands up there and he is, boy, he's a strong conservative, right? Until you look at his vote and he backstabs the people that he is there to protect. And I think people are getting tired of it. And I think people are finally seeing it. Jason's a nice guy. Yes, absolutely. But we need to have a fighter, somebody that'll stand up. And I don't know. Just like you said, there's strings attached to these big donors. look at that, see it's an open book to see the donations. You've got millions and millions of dollars from big, big donors. And big, big donors have strings attached to that. And that's very scary. And that's how that system works. I think that works not only for politics, but also for any legislation that's up in DC or anywhere else. Those strings are attached for, know, healthcare, anything. Anything that we are subject to. from this government and subject to indirect ways that way, because legislation has been passed to help big pharma and these other things that allow prescription drugs go up. We need to have a total of a whole system. We need to full investigations on these big pharma and all these other stuff that's causing us to pay more for the same product. Well, I agree with you. know, COVID, that's a prime example of federal overreach. When has there been a bigger overstep in federal history to where the government has mandated people stay home from work? People, you know, you had to choose between feeding yourself or, or going without electric. know, people felt the hurt from COVID. And I think that was the beginning of the eyes opening. I really believe it too. they were saying that you can go to strip joint, not go to I mean, that, I mean, this is stupid stuff that is in your face. So we've seen it build up, I think in the last couple of decades, just from what I've learned, this stuff like World Health Organization, that stuff being around for a while. And this is a plan for the decades. think they land on Hillary being in office and this being over with. we threw, Trump threw a wrench in that plan and hopefully he gets elected again without them cheating too much this time. Well, they've already done it. know, just Kamala, she didn't have a single primary vote. You know, but yet she is going to be the Democratic nominee. And you know, the fact that they did the debate so far in advance showed you their plan. You know, they knew he was going to bomb this debate. And then, yes. And then now we're stuck with Kamala. It's not even going to go to an open convention. don't believe. Yeah. To where they, at least the delegates get to vote on it. You know, they're already sworn to Kamala. Really? Yep. See, I haven't been following it much because I've been on the road a lot, but I always thought Michelle Obama was going to get in. I'm not sure. thought that too. So it doesn't look like she's going to do that. No, no. She's from everything I've seen. She's made it very clear that she, she doesn't want to do it right now. Okay. Okay. But I mean, I think as, as of right now, I think Kamala has 1 ,498 delegates pledged to her. She's only like a hundred or two off from getting the denomination. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And you know, this is just cheating in a different form this year, you know, we've never seen this. And the last time we've had an open convention on a democratic party was in the sixties. You know, and here we are and they're not, they're giving it to their, their, their coup. This is what it is. It was a coup. What, what is your stances on abortion, on immigration, on these, these, these big issues that the Missourians face? Yeah, that's another thing that I think Jason could have done with this, these ominous bills. we, president Reagan shut the government down at like eight times and it worked and we had ability to do that. And he didn't, he didn't side for that. these big spending bills should have been shut down and said, we're going to get to have some serious talks when you shut the government down, then we'll let the cream rise to the top and start talking about the real issues. Board of Securities is a big one. The more I've gotten involved in this, the more I realize and the Bible talks about there's good and evil. We need to get off the fence and either be on the good side or the evil side. And my wife tends to like talking about the evil part of it, but it is pure evil. This to me, an open border is allowing things to happen that we don't want. And one of them is child trafficking. And the New York Times, think in February last year, so it's been way over a year, have reported that 85 ,000 of these kids are missing. And I'm understanding the industry more. They're using it multiple times and they're throwing them away. And so we don't know how many are alive. We don't know where they're at. And we're not vetting the people coming across. Again, these kids are maybe attached to families, but the Biden administration has stopped DNA testing, so we can't, and it's a very simple test. They stopped that for a bad reason. So fentanyls come across the border. All these things that are basically killing our citizens and treating these kids the way they're worse than animals. is bad. So close this border. can, like I said, make the move, shut the government down and start negotiating and start having some real talk. And that was a couple of times there that Jason missed that opportunity. The opportunity is to be strong. didn't take. Yeah, right. He didn't stand with the Freedom Caucus guys, America First people. and shut do this thing yeah and i know people would be coming at you but you gotta what you gotta do stand stand for the truth and stand yep and just wait for the storm to go over and and start working with real decisions well i'm glad you brought up human trafficking or child trafficking in particular i had chris write on a few few about a month ago about a month ago and he was talking about human trafficking he said missouri's number four in the in the country that So that is a huge issue for, for Missouri. You know that, and I had never heard that before and I looked it up and it's true. are number four because like he said, we're in the perfect spot. We're right in the middle. You can get to anywhere from Missouri. It's about a 13 hour drive every which way you want to go. but at least someone's talking about this issue because it's one I've heard very little of on the campaign trail all around. Yeah, it is. It is pure evil. can't be much more evil than that. And I treat these innocent kids the way they are. It's a spiritual war. is. is. Yeah. People think you're kooky when you say that. But I think, like you said, good and evil. But a spiritual war is being waged here in America. And that's what I also come to the conclusion of this fall in this stuff. It is a spiritual war. You look at the Olympics, for example, when they mocked Jesus Christ and his last supper before they died. Yeah. And that's and just it's a it's a mockery. And this is what we're we're suffering from here. Lack of people seeing seeing this at this. This stuff that's playing in the physical is actually coming through as a spiritual thing that's going on. And I think hopefully as the stuff that's in your face, this stuff that's thrown at us through from our president administration, people start waking up, say, Hey, is there a God? Is he real? Is he good? And I start looking into this stuff, be involved. There's a place in Mountain View that's helping drug addicts. I think it's care center, care center, ministries. Great, great stuff. Doing awesome stuff. great stuff. People get educated. We are losing our country through not only fentanyl, but all the other stuff that's there. That's drug related. Well, if you, not to get too conspiratorial, but if you think about it, you know, this, this drug pandemic, okay, you get people on fentanyl, then most time they're not going to be working. They're not going to be providing. So then they're going to rely on government money. And then by relying on government money, you sacrifice freedom because they'll tell you what to do to get this government money. Exactly. I mean, that's kind of the platform, world economic forum. Exactly. think the Democratic Party is right with them. You will own nothing and you will be happy for it. Exactly. You have your little bitty Xbox or something you're looking at and they'll feed you and they'll get your vote. And then while we're getting to the age of self -driving vehicles. God forbid you miss a payment on your vehicle. It locks the doors and it drives itself back to the, you know what I mean? I mean, that's where we're getting in society with this technological advance and Republicans, Republicans are on the downhill slope of this fighting upwards because the tech company is owned by the liberals is owned by the Democrats. They control the flow of information right now. The Democrat, and I've talked about this with several other candidates that if Republicans don't get energized, we will never own an election again. because they have the energy, they have the momentum on their side, they have the young people. They are so ideologically captured by what's going on. They don't care about killing a baby in the ninth month. To them, it's a right to choose over a right to life, and that's not what it is. Where do you stand on abortion? On abortion, like I said, I'm a Christian. I believe that the Bible teaches that life begins at conception. And so that's where I stand. I'm going to stand with her life. I realize there's confusion out there in the media that we're talking about that promotes this stuff that is not part of your body, it's, it is, that it's, it's not part of your body, but it, it, I'm sorry. It is part of your body. I'm sorry. Yeah. but it's not, it is a, and it's an individual. it's, it's a symbiotic relationship that, that God nature has given us, you know, women. It's biology, know, another human being is growing inside of you. And I don't feel like you have the right to, to kill that. Right. Just because of irresponsibility. You know, and I realized people are confused. Some of these girls are confused because of me that they're listening to. And what we want to do is I think, we want to support them in that pregnancy, try to get them to, to, stay with life and allow that kid to have a normal life. we also need to have possibly programs, preferably outside the government, but just like we're talking about these volunteer organizations that's helping drug addicts, those people that are finding good homes for these kids being adopted or foster home. That is another big thing in my opinion, the foster care that we have is not the most perfect either. And so we have to look into that more and find better ways of treating these kids. like humans. And do you think that comes with maybe more funding towards those programs? Possibly. Eliminate wasteful spending. Yeah. I'm not again. We, think people ask me where are going to get this money to do stuff or whatever. mean, we're spending so much money. That's, that's mismanaged. That's corrupt. For instance, I don't believe in the us supporting the Ukraine. One of the most corrupt countries in the world and we're sending money and we're not even tracking that money. mean, Hunter was involved with Ukraine. Yeah. So the Biden family is in part of that as well. But we had the ability to track that money and then the House, the Dining and Tinker got out of conference. So that big red flag to me say, hey, why are we sending money and not tracking it to one of the most corrupt countries in the world? Exactly. They over sent five billion dollars. I didn't know where it went five, six months ago or something like that. But they over spent over sent five billion dollars to Ukraine that they accidentally sent. If you looked at the fires in Maui to make every person whole that had just went through that fire, it was about five billion dollars. Why do we not take care of our own here in America over? It's like our government prioritizes these other countries over its own people. And I think people are getting tired of that. Right. And I think we need strong conservative people in there that are going to stand up for the little guy. Right. You know, who knows what it's like to be on that side? Because I always say this is there's two, there's two different worlds we live in. There's the rule, the world of the governed and the world of the governors. The governors don't know what it's like to live in our world because they're so out of touch with what it, what these legislations do to us. Yeah, exactly. And that's just a big thing to me is that getting the right people in there that are that that have the mindset of the regular people. Yeah. And it's not rocket science. not. I mean, it does not rocket science to say no to a bill that's overspending stuff and supporting a bunch of dirty stuff in it. mean, you say, for instance, the representation we have has a placard that says 100 % pro-life. You can't say that because the bill's showing that it's... paying for abortions. Well, mean, so even Missouri for it to be such a ruby red conservative state, we passed or not we, but they passed the safe act, you know, the safe adolescents from experimentation, but it gets to the Senate and it gets watered down with a four year sunset clause that in four years are going to have to go revisit and see if they even want to have that bill. Wow. You know, and we're in a conservative state, you know, and it comes from these lobbyists owning these politicians and saying, a minute, you know, you can do this, but in four years, Let's go back and revisit and see if we want to keep this. know, that's that's just more of a reason for us to get involved. mean, hopefully people are seeing what we're seeing and put this up in your face now. You can't really avoid it and hopefully we get people get involved. I didn't realize this. And I said, I'm not a politician. I wasn't involved in the Republican party that much, but, they have what they call a precinct committee, men, committee women, and, lot of people don't know this, but the RNC, right. Republican National Committee does not advertise this position. It's a foundational block to the Republican Party. I've never even heard of it. you haven't? No. There's basically, it's been several months ago that I heard this, but hopefully, it's been updated as people start getting these positions. But over half of those positions are available. They're open and they're not being advertised by RNC because they don't want people involved to tell them what to do. So we have that whole positions, there's just an available, there's almost like 400 ,000 positions and 200 ,000 are empty. So if we can get on the, this is on the ground level. is either whether you're, go by a precinct in your county or a township or whatever it is, you can be that committee man or committee woman and start setting foundational blocks to get proper people elected and vetted. And it is, it is I don't understand the whole works, but I understand that if you have enough of these people, it'll turn the RNC to a conservative party again. It'll get the grassroots. And it's so scary. again, I didn't understand this real well, but in South Dakota, that's a red state. it's the legislators, the red legislators got together when they started seeing the movement of this community men and community women in their field and what authority they have. they started to have a special, they want to have a special meeting. And once we found out about it, the special meeting was shut down. Of course. Because they wanted to take authority away from through the whatever they were doing to take authority away from these committee members. Absolutely. this meeting. this is a red state. So that's what we're dealing with. Just like Eli Crane was saying, he's a constituent or I'm sorry, a colleague of Jason's. He's out of Arizona. And before this bill was passed, this this bill, this HB 2882 that Jason voted yes on with majority of the Democrats. Before this was passed, he says, why you guys keep sending these Republicans back up to office? We got to fight these guys. This is as much as the Democrats are even worse. Yeah. Because most of these guys are staying something behind the podium and that's not doing it. we're he said, you guys got to you guys got to send some people, different people up and some new blood so we can work with them. Yeah. Because we're losing. And that's one of the things that if someone gets like me from a grassroots level or whatever gets there, I'm going to be rubbing shoulders with these guys, the America first and people and, and get to know the mechanics of how this works. And I understand. may not agree with all the stuff that they're doing, but I can make my discernments as a Christian. exactly. There's a time for agreement and disagreement, but you guys can always come together for the fight at hand. So there needs to be that coalition of conservatives to fight this. And that's what Eli Crane was asking for. We need more conservatives up here so we can fight it even harder and take this over. What was the, let me think how to word this. What was the straw that broke the camel's back whenever you're like, Hey, I am going to run. Well, it was a, it was a Thursday, March 22nd when this bill was passed, I believe. And I really hope that Jason Smith wouldn't have. passed this, this house bill, this second swamp bill that to call it, but he did, he, he helped pass it and he voted yes. So the Thursday, that 22nd, we had a Lincoln day and the next day on 10 Texas County and started discussing with some of these people. And, and I was so frustrated that he voted yes with it because if he'd have voted no, I wouldn't be here, but he voted yes. And I started talking to a few people. Brad Hudson was one of them. it's running very strong conservative. Yeah. But, and I was getting a little bit of feedback from people, but I decided, that we were losing our country in front of our eyes and no one was opposing him. I was hoping maybe someone I could stand up with to pose him was, was going to run against him, but that wasn't happening either. So keep in mind that was Thursday. I was discussing it Friday. I discussed with my wife that weekend and Tuesday was the last day to file. at noon. That morning, the last day, I finally made my decision. I talked to Bob Parker. He was running against Emerson back in the day for the same seat. And he told me, he if you don't do it, you may regret the rest of your life. You don't try it. So I went with it and drove to Jeff City that afternoon and filed that Tuesday. That's a good story. So that was a, I like that. I mean, the fact, you know, cause and effect. You know, the cause was he voted for this bill. The effect is he's got you running against him. And keep in mind, I'm being less less an alternative media that was actually giving me the truth. And I was seeing how scary it was and seeing how deep this thing was. Isn't it sad you can't trust the regular news sources? I regular, but the mainstream news. I thought was conservative Fox News, even Newsmax. They they if you talked about the vaccine, quote unquote, the vaccine, I call it a bio weapon in a negative way. They throw you off set. And I was a Pauline Newsmax too, a little bit. So I just kind of, I kind of gravitated. My story was, I know Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, had a symposium that I think in September in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. And I didn't realize I was busy with my own business, but about a month after that, I watched what they call, I forget what they called it, but it was election integrity of some sort. And they had a bunch of cyber guys on there and that type of stuff. And that's where I really got a good education and got connected with. with Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy, and started following him. had a platform that he had with All Christian Hosts, and I started watching that like crazy because I was trying to wrap my head around all this stuff. In fact, I was going to get the vaccine for a little bit. I mean, for a little time, I considered it. Thank God, huh? I know. And so I just, I got educated pretty quick and tried to get my head wrapped around what was going on. And it was a big deal. I was seeing my country fall. So that's something you would definitely fight against is vaccine mandates. heck yeah. Because it's not a vaccine. It's a vaccine. think what they consider a true vaccine is something that's either, especially for a virus, it's either a dead virus or a very sick virus. an mRNA. Yeah. So that your body can adjust and make antibodies against this. And we understand from this, this thing was a spear experimental drug for very, very high risk cancer patients that had no other alternative. And this RMNA technology was something that was trying out on these guys. Well, the one of the founders of this mRNA vaccine that holds, think 10 of the patents for this mRNA vaccine. He even came out and said, he said, this changes your DNA. This is not a vaccine. And for them to mandate that to people. and people dropping dead now from blood clots from, whatever it is caused by this vaccine injury that they said did not exist. Yeah. But all the time, ostracizing people for going with alternative medicine, taking horse dewormer. Yeah, I know. A medicine that won a Nobel peace prize because it was the most effective medicine for what it was for its viral medicine. Right. You know, and there was no pennies on the dollar you could get it for. I was listening to a guy named Steve Hatfield. was, he was in the higher up. in, the medical, field or whatever, and then you're using it on Ebola back in the day. And, they, I think Trump administration or whatever, when this thing started coming out on this, this virus or whatever you want to call it, he was called up to the DC and, he already knew, early case studies with in South Korea and in France, think, or somewhere in Europe. of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine already working and is having really good results. So he came up with this information because this is all new and this team that was up there and it gets, know, Fauci's team or whatever, they basically told him, no, we're not going to do this. We're going to have, we're going to use this, we're going to force this RNA technology on people. And I think they knew what they were doing. They did. If you listen to Fauci, I've went back there and just listened to some of Fauci stuff. If you don't trust the science, trust Anthony Fauci. Any person who talks in a third person, that's an evil person. It's like a Bond villain. I'm Anthony Fauci and you need to trust me. Yeah. No, no bud. Yeah. He was oversight on the Ebola trials back in 2000. Remember that this came, this, this virus came out of Wuhan or whatever. in the late 2019s, it was hit in the U S early 2020. And, they already had a study, with his arm and a, or I'm sorry, no, that's more than arm and a, but there was an Ebola study that they were trying to do in Africa on people that had a Ebola and they were using what they call remdesivir. this was Fauci product that he was using under, under their, under his watch. And they had to shut that study down because, 50 % of the people were dying. so the safety board shut it down and, and Fauci, this was late 2019, think it was early or mid 2019. And then Fauci sets this as a protocol to use this from Desivier, this protocol, this five day protocol and people that are in patient care in hospitals. And then we have, you know, I don't know if you remember or not, but when when in 2020 happened and all these people were they shown in body bags in New York and that type of stuff. And these doctors were saying, I don't understand this. I never seen a virus do this. It's causing organ failure and these people are dying. Yeah. Well, it wasn't the wasn't the the virus. was the the medicine that fatuous. putting out there. Exactly. was remdesivir. And you know, they get away with this, like you said, it's a bioweapon, okay? We know this gain of function research has happened because coronavirus, wasn't spread to humans until it got into that lab and they altered it and genetically mutated that virus to be able to go to a human. we're starting to see the same things with this H1N5 virus. Have you heard much about that coming out? It's a bird flu. I've been following this very closely for the past few months. What they were worried about three months, four months ago is that it was going to make the jump from birds to cows. And if it made the jump there, then it eventually will make the jump to humans. Well, two months ago, it made the jump to the cows. Now three people have been dead humans from this H1N5 virus. It's the new pandemic. It's coming in the pipeline and it will be here. I'm guessing probably by election time. My gosh. It scares me. Now, where is this coming from? you heard? Maine, Maryland, somewhere up. I'm not sure wherever all the dairy cows are, that's where it's happening right now, but I got rumblings of this probably eight months ago when they, just seen like little news articles about this H1N5, because it wasn't, wasn't widespread information on it. And I started following it real close and I saw that it made the jump to cows and I was telling my wife, I'm like, we need, we need to keep an eye on this. So I, I pinned those words where any information I could find on it and comes out now humans are catching it. And it's only a matter of time. The difference between H1N5 and COVID is COVID had a 0 .5 % mortality rate. This has a 60. My gosh. If we went crazy over a 0 .5%, imagine what the government is going to to us over something that has over half the people will die. This is crazy. It scares me. And this is what the World Economic Forum wants. yes. What is it? 500 million? They want the population from 8 billion to 500 million? Yep. Yep. And on top of that, they... Anti -human is, I guess, the only word to call that. You know, whenever we should be wanting more people, that's how our species have survived by populating the world, having kids and taking these conservative values out of society. What is the big things that they preach? Have your abortions. Don't have a family. Don't get married. Get divorced. Do what thou will. I mean, that was one of the satanic principles in the Satanic Bible is do what thou will. Right. And here we are today and we're seeing the effects of this in our society. Yeah, it is. And it's sickening. Yeah. But there's so many that's ideologically captured by it that won't look at the common sense. Yeah. I don't know. It's scary. It's crazy. I never thought, I mean, we talked about when I was, earlier in my age, I guess, 20 years ago or whatever, I still had kids and stuff, but seeing this world and trying to do something for my kids. Well, I'm trying to do something for myself right now. Yeah. because we're seeing it right now. This is transpiring right now in our face. In what world will we leave our children if we don't fix it now? Yeah. I mean, people have the ability to be apathetic because we have a rich country and we want to do whatever we want to do and not be bothered. But we have to get to a point now and see in this that we got to do something. mean, whether it's getting involved in politics or getting involved in a church more way or trying to... I really believe this. mean, you have a Chinese CCP. You have a country that's very powerful. You have like seven or eight, maybe five or six, six or seven families that really control that. But you have the people there that are probably most, lot of them are probably most of them are good. And I think I've seen this is probably an older statistics, probably a decade ago, but Christianity would believe it or not is the fastest growing. faith in the world. think Muslim faith is, but I think it's Christianity. And lot of it may not be happening in US, but places like China, it's growing like crazy. And I think this is God's plan. If we can convert people to or bring people to a truth of Jesus Christ and the goodness of him and allowing people to see that in a big way, nations will topple because of that from inside out. Faith of a mustard seed. And there's a movement in China for that to happen. There was a guy named Miles Wohlitz, that was part of the Tim and Square type stuff. And he's in jail in New York waiting to be extradited to China. So, I mean, you picked some of this stuff up in this news media that you wouldn't get unless you're watching alternative news. And so that's my, I think God's hope is to reach people's hearts and change nations. And we need to do that here. Definitely. And I think it takes energizing the conservative base and educating the young. I mean, right now they're winning. They're winning the spiritual war. mean, from the time they step foot into those public schools until they go to college, that's shoved down their throat. DEI, all this stuff. DEI is what caused the Trump assassination attempt. mean, Biden came out and said 30 % of Secret Service will be women by the end of like 2028 or whatever it was. Yeah. You either can do the job or you can't. shouldn't matter what you are. What sex you are or what color you are. Because isn't at its core, that's the definition of racism and sexism is giving someone something based on what they are or taking something from them. Yeah. Yeah. It's backwards. It's kind of strange how Martha and Luther back in the day was saying, and now they're directly against that. We're towards segregation again. They want like, it makes no sense to me. Yeah, it doesn't. But it's there to divide. It is. Divide and conquer. Before we wrap up, what is your message to the people? Why should they vote for you? Yeah. What do want to tell them? Yeah. I've been in the real world for 45 years doing work. And so I'm not a politician, but I've got a good standing with my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I'm looking for the truth. I will continue to look for the truth because it brings freedom in our lives. That's what I want to do for the people in the 8th congressional, just bring freedom back to their lives because this government overreaches is just way out of control. We have representation that's out of touch and we're out of time. That's what says on my little business cards or my palm readers that I give palm, palm readers, palm flyers or palm cards that I give to people is our representation is out of touch and we're out of time. And we have representation that's not only Jason, but a bunch of them out there that need to be replaced because they're insol they feel like they're insulated from the public. They think they feel they can go to the Lincoln days or rigging days and speak behind the podium one thing and do another and get by with it. The time is now to change that. You can't keep voting for the same people and expect different results. You got to change something and that's who I am. I'm going to change this. Like I said, I don't want this job. I've been in high pressure jobs where I was handed a football and it was a million dollars a day if we were affecting startup and these nuclear power plants. So I know what pressure is. But to me, it's very simple. We represent the people, not the people that are up there. We're negotiating with serpents. We don't trust in intelligence agencies. A lot of these things that we know that proven, they're weaponizing the government against us. We start from scratch and start building a correlation with these conservatives that are already up there and make a difference. Amen. You brought up a good point about insulated from the voters. And I think that hits the nail on the head. thank you. I hope, I wish you the best on election day. hope you win. folks, know, every year we gripe, we bitch, we moan about not getting the right people in office. This year we actually have a chance to do that. There are so many good candidates that are grassroots candidates that, have their Lord Jesus Christ in their heart that are Christian folks who are going to do what's right by you. I think this is the year to change it. Like he said, we're out of time. Thank you very much for being here. Yeah, thank you, Devin, for what you're doing and convincing people the truth. Yeah, God bless. Thank you. All right, thank you, Devin. Appreciate it. That is very good. It's true.